I definitely see the distinction there! That's an interesting line to draw. I agree with you. I was at least curious to see where things went. And they both had a captivating screen presence even if I viscerally disliked both of them lol.

I know I've said it before, but The Penguin might be the rare TV show that's worth your time! I'd heard many of the praises, but even still I was impressed. Possibly my favorite show of 2024.